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Zero trust, by ear

14 episodes, in order, 7 checked against the publisher's transcript. Identity as the control plane: what zero trust means in practice and how programs roll it out. Start at the top if the topic is new to you, or jump to the stage that matches where you are.

Start here: the basics

  1. 1
    Analyst Chat #41: NIST’s Zero Trust Architecture
    KuppingerCole Analyst Chat · 2020-08-21 · 22 min · Learner

    Walks through NIST SP 800-207 and explains why zero trust is an architecture joining identity and security, with every session authenticated and authorized.

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    John Tolbert (KuppingerCole Analysts)infostealer session hijacking
  2. 2
    401 Access Denied Ep. 39 | Zero Trust Fundamentals with Dave Lewis
    401 Access Denied · 2021-10-20 · 40 min · Learner

    Covers zero trust basics and its deperimeterization roots, building a strategy from an inventory of users, devices and workloads, winning board buy-in, and giving people simple security tools.

    Dave Lewis (Cisco)zero trust
  3. 3
    #129 - Zero Trust in 2022 with Den Jones
    Identity at the Center · 2022-01-17 · 64 min · Learner

    A security chief who led zero trust programs explains what zero trust looks like in practice and how an organization can get started.

    Den Jones (Banyan Security)zero trust
  4. 4
    Analyst Chat #213: The Foundation of Secure Communication: Digital Identities in Zero Trust
    KuppingerCole Analyst Chat · 2024-05-06 · 17 min · Learner

    Explains why zero trust depends on verifying every access request using identity, device health, and context, and how identity lifecycle management supports it.

    Checked against the publisher's transcript
    Charlene Spasic (KuppingerCole Analysts)zero trust

In practice: rollouts and operations

  1. 5
    Zero Trust Maturity Model 2.0
    The 443: Security Simplified · 2023-04-17 · 53 min · Practitioner

    Reviews CISA's Zero Trust Maturity Model version 2.0 and how organizations can use it to measure progress and choose next steps.

  2. 6
    The Zero Trust Mistakes 90% of Companies Are Making (Microsoft Insiders Reveal All)
    Entra.Chat · 2025-08-02 · 54 min · Practitioner

    Microsoft architects walk through the Zero Trust Workshop and the rollout gaps they see most, such as device compliance policies never enforced through Conditional Access.

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    Clay (Microsoft)Ramiro (Microsoft)conditional access policies guide
  3. 7
    #376 - Understanding Device Identity in a Zero Trust Framework with Shea McGrew
    Identity at the Center · 2025-09-29 · 74 min · Practitioner

    A county government CTO explains how device identity fits into a zero trust program alongside human identity in a complex public-sector organization.

    Shea McGrew (Maricopa County, Arizona)zero trust
  4. 8
    How to Migrate from Legacy VPNs to Entra Private Access (Real Strategies from a Veteran)
    Entra.Chat · 2026-03-14 · 43 min · Practitioner

    A remote access veteran explains replacing VPNs with identity-based zero trust network access, running both side by side during migration.

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    Richard Hicks (Richard M. Hicks Consulting)zero trust
  5. 9
    How to Design Bullet-Proof Conditional Access Policies in Microsoft Entra ID
    Entra.Chat · 2026-04-11 · 57 min · Practitioner

    Gives a design method for Conditional Access: block-by-default policies, persona-based naming, and tested break-glass accounts protected with FIDO2.

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    Per Torben Sørensen (Crayon)conditional access policies guide

Going deeper: standards, architecture, and attacks

  1. 10
    #255 - CAEP and SSF 101 with Atul from SGNL and Sean from Disney
    Identity at the Center · 2024-01-22 · 53 min · Architect

    Explains the Shared Signals Framework and CAEP with real examples, such as services sharing session and location signals so access can be changed in near real time.

  2. 11
    #402 - An Update on SSF and CAEP with Atul Tulshibagwale
    Identity at the Center · 2026-02-16 · 62 min · Architect

    Updates the state of the Shared Signals Framework and CAEP standards, including adoption by major technology companies.

  3. 12
    Analyst Chat #248: Zero Trust and Beyond - Dynamic Authorization in 2025
    KuppingerCole Analyst Chat · 2025-04-07 · 25 min · Architect

    Traces authorization from static entitlements to externalized, policy-based decisions that use real-time context, the per-request model zero trust requires.

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    Nitish Deshpande (KuppingerCole Analysts)Martin Kuppinger (KuppingerCole Analysts)zero trust
  4. 13
    Analyst Chat #284: Beyond ZTNA, the Rise of Zero Trust Platforms
    KuppingerCole Analyst Chat · 2026-01-26 · 24 min · Architect

    Argues ZTNA alone cannot cover hybrid environments, AI agents, and ephemeral workloads, and describes integrated zero trust platforms enforcing policy for every identity type.

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    Alexei Balaganski (KuppingerCole Analysts)zero trust
  5. 14
    Continuous Access Evaluation Protocol (CAEP) with Tim Cappalli and Atul Tulshibagwale
    Identity, Unlocked · 2021-02-22 · 35 min · Architect

    Explains why long-lived federated sessions need continuous signals, and how the OpenID Shared Signals and Events work on CAEP lets providers share session changes.

    Tim CappalliAtul Tulshibagwale (Google)caepshared signals framework

How this list was built

Episodes are chosen for what they teach, not for who published them, and ordered so each one builds on the last. Each note is checked against the transcript the show publishes on its own site where one exists (marked and linked under the episode), and against the show notes otherwise. We link to episodes; we do not copy, host, or transcribe them. Vendor-produced shows are labelled on their directory profiles. Know a better episode for a step on this path? Email community@startwithidentity.com.

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